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Monday, November 25, 2024  
9:00 AM  
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1. Call to Order and Roll Call  
President Helms called the meeting to order at 9:00 AM.  
8 -  
Present  
Councilmember Yolanda Avila, President Pro Tem Lynette Crow-Iverson,  
Councilmember Dave Donelson, President Randy Helms, Councilmember Nancy  
Henjum, Councilmember David Leinweber, Councilmember Brian Risley, and  
Councilmember Michelle Talarico  
1 - Councilmember Mike O'Malley  
Excused  
Councilmember Henjum attended the meeting virtually.  
2. Changes to Agenda  
There were no Changes to Agenda.  
3. Regular Meeting Comments  
There were no Regular Meeting Comments.  
4. Review of Previous Meeting Minutes  
4.A.  
City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes November 12, 2024  
Presenter:  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk  
The minutes of the November 12, 2024 Work Session were approved by  
Consensus of City Council.  
5. Presentations for General Information  
5.A.  
Pikes Peak Library District Board of Trustees Informational Brief  
Presenter:  
Aaron Salt, Pikes Peak Library Board of Trustees  
Dora Gonzales, Chair, Pike Peak Library District (PPLD) Board of  
Trustees introduced Aaron Salt, PPLD Board of Trustees member, who  
provided an information briefing regarding their decision to close the  
PPLD Rockrimmon Branch, the PPLD 2025 Budget, PPLD Facilities  
Master Plan process, stakeholder events, surveys, community outreach,  
PPLD Board of Trustees meetings, and retreat. He stated the preliminary  
report was presented at the June 2024 PPLD Board of Trustees public  
meeting, the report identified the community has a wide variety of needs  
without the funding to meet those needs, and the Board has prioritized  
safety, security, staffing, wages, and facilities in their budget, which are the  
factors which led to the decision to not renew the lease at Rockrimmon. Mr.  
Salt stated PPLD is working on hybrid model to meet the demand of the  
dynamic and growing community and the way things were done in the past  
have led to the current issues the District is facing today.  
President Helms asked if public sessions started in February 2024 and  
then conducted a survey after that. Mr. Salt confirmed they had.  
President Helms requested additional information regarding the variety of  
needs in the community. Mr. Salt stated the Facilities Master Plan lists all  
the deferred maintenance of approximately $20 million which is owed  
across the District.  
President Helms requested additional information regarding the future  
hybrid model/24-hour access. Mr. Salt stated it would provide key cards to  
specific community members who would need to go through a process to  
obtain access without onsite staff.  
President Helms asked if alternative locations have been considered. Mr.  
Salt confirmed they have but nothing has met the needs of the District.  
President Helms asked what considerations were given for public  
transportation for those who are unable to drive to another branch. Mr. Salt  
stated they did consider transportation as a factor, but it was not a  
weighing factor which merited leaving the Rockrimmon lease in place.  
President Helms asked if there will be a bookmobile for the area. Mr. Salt  
stated it is a solution they are looking at in the interim, but the public has not  
responded positively to bookmobile or locker options, so they are  
continuing to look for opportunities on the westside to service the  
community.  
President Helms asked if the community raised funds to pay the lease for  
another year if the PPLD would keep the Rockrimmon branch open. Mr.  
Salt stated it is not just a budgetary decision, the safety of the facility due to  
the sinkhole, the safety of the staff/patrons, and the staffing across the  
District were also taken into consideration.  
Councilmember Talarico asked how many Rockrimmon residents were  
involved in the stakeholder meetings. Mr. Salt stated the meetings were El  
Paso County wide and they do not have the numbers specific to the  
Rockrimmon community.  
Councilmember Talarico asked how many of the 3,700 respondents to the  
survey live in/or frequent the Rockrimmon branch. Mr. Salt clarified that the  
3,700 participants included both the intercept events and the survey with  
2,500 respondents to the survey and they will provide that information.  
Councilmember Talarico requested she be included to participate in any  
discussion if the Cheyenne Mountain branch was to be closed. Mr. Salt  
stated the Board has not had any discussion regarding closing any other  
branch at this time and the immediacy of this decision was due to the  
Rockrimmon lease renewal.  
Councilmember Donelson requested he receive written responses to the  
questions he presented to the Board. Mr. Salt agreed to provide that  
information.  
Councilmember Donelson requested additional information on why the  
Board would not keep the Rockrimmon branch open if the funding was  
provided to renew the lease for another year. Mr. Salt stated they would still  
have staffing costs, facility expenses, and they did not want to continue this  
lease.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what cost per square foot is the Board  
looking for. Mr. Salt stated $15 to $17 per square foot, and they are also  
looking for other specific facility aspects to allow them to move to the hybrid  
model. Councilmember Donelson asked if card scanners could be installed  
at the current Rockrimmon branch. Mr. Salt confirmed they could.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what the cost per square foot is at  
Rockrimmon. Mr. Salt stated approximately $25 per square foot.  
Councilmember Donelson stated the $65,000 raised by the community  
would put the cost within the Board’s desired range and allow the Board a  
year to figure out a solution for the future. Mr. Salt stated they would not  
figure out anything differently than what they know now and there are more  
needs than just matching the rent, they need a long-term systemic plan in  
order to make sure they focus on the sustainability of the District.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if any decisions were made at the Board  
retreat, if it was recorded, and if there were any citizens outside the PPLD  
who were present. Mr. Salt stated there were no decisions or votes made  
at the retreat, it was not recorded and there were no citizens present  
outside the PPLD.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what it would take to keep the  
Rockrimmon branch open. Mr. Salt stated the Board has voted and he  
does not believe there is any desire from the Board to reconsider.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how much the sinkhole cost to repair. Mr.  
Salt stated that bill will be rolled into next year and paid in arrears.  
Councilmember Leinweber commented that loneliness and isolation are  
major factors to the community’s mental health issues and the City needs to  
find a solution for providing community gathering spaces.  
Councilmember Henjum asked what the PPLD’s long-term goals are. Mr.  
Salt stated their preference is to own the facilities rather than leasing.  
Councilmember Avila stated she does not believe City Council should try to  
control another governmental entity because they are minimizing the work  
of the volunteers who serve on the PPLD Board who have put careful  
consideration into this decision which was not based solely on the budget.  
Councilmember Avila asked what the percentage of the PPLD’s budget is  
in reserves. Mr. Salt stated they do have money in reserves to assist with  
the library’s operational needs, but he does not know the percentage.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if high rent was the cause of closing the  
branch, why was that branch expanded at least twice in the past two years.  
Mr. Salt stated the previous expansions were under prior leadership and  
administration and the assessment of the facilities and budget has  
changed.  
Councilmember Donelson asked why the PPLD is closing the Rockrimmon  
Branch when the rent is less than half a percent of the total budget. Mr. Salt  
stated budgetary limitations alone are not the driving factor on this  
decision.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what cost metrics PPLD is using to  
evaluate the cost efficiencies of their libraries. Mr. Salt stated each Trustee  
has made statements in the public meetings as to what prompted them to  
vote the way they did.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if the cost per book/cost per patron was  
considered. Mr. Salt stated they did evaluate the foot traffic of that branch.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what other metrics were evaluated  
outside of cost per square foot and the Rockrimmon branch having the  
highest rent. Mr. Salt stated staffing, proximately to other branches, and  
conditions of the facility.  
Councilmember Donelson commented that because of the number of  
customers checking out books, staffing cost is very competitive to other  
branches, and future maintenance cost is very low for this branch.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what the average cost of the director  
positions are for the branch. Mr. Salt stated they are consistently  
understaffed by thirty-five to forty positions and eliminating those positions  
would exacerbate the issue. Councilmember Donelson asked if they are  
thirty-five to forty percent understaffed in director positions. Mr. Salt stated  
he does not have that information.  
Councilmember Donelson asked why non-essential services were not cut  
prior to closing the branch especially when a balanced budget was  
presented with the Rockrimmon branch remaining open. Mr. Salt stated all  
their services they provide are essential to people in the community who  
need them.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how 3D printers are essential. Mr. Salt  
explained that those are purchases which have already been made and are  
used for Maker Spaces to help individuals learn entrepreneurial skills and  
career building. Councilmember Donelson stated the priority of the PPLD  
Board should be to keep branch open instead of some of the other  
expenditures.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what the cost is to move the books and  
where will they go. Mr. Salt stated the material will be distributed to other  
branches and primarily split between 21C, East, and Manitou Springs, and  
staff will be handling the move so there will not be a cost for hiring it out.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how much it cost to purchase 21C. Mr.  
Salt stated he does not have that information.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if there is a plan to reinforce the upper  
level of 21C because it cannot support the weight of the books. Mr. Salt  
stated there is not.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if it has been considered to sell 21c or  
East in order to keep branches open. Mr. Salt stated it has not been  
considered to sell a property to maintain a lease.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if leasing is ever an option over  
purchasing a property. Mr. Salt stated strategically sometimes leasing is an  
option, but principally, owning is generally a better option than renting.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how much it cost to repave the parking lot  
of East. Mr. Salt stated $750,000.  
Councilmember Donelson stated the Save Rockrimmon Library group has  
raised more funds in the past month than the PPLD has raised in past year.  
Mr. Salt stated he does not believe that to be accurate.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if PPLD’s biggest fundraising event, A  
Night at the Library was held this year. Mr. Salt stated it was not due to the  
transition in leadership which did not allow enough time to plan the event,  
but it is planned to be held next year. Councilmember Donelson asked how  
much that event raises. Mr. Salt stated he does not have that information.  
Councilmember Donelson asked why interest revenue for 2025 is in the  
budget for $500,000 when historically it was much higher than that. Mr. Salt  
stated it is because they do not know what the interest rates will be and  
what the interest income will be, so they budget conservatively.  
Councilmember Henjum asked what the future of the PPLD is. Mr. Salt  
stated some of the Board members are willing to go to the voters to put  
forth a ballot measure, but he, personally, does not want to go to the voters  
until they have proven that they are responsible stewards of the funding they  
currently have.  
Councilmember Talarico asked if the PPLD found a space for  
approximately $15.00-$18.00 per square foot in this area, would they  
consider that as an option. Mr. Salt confirmed it would if it had the required  
facility needs.  
Councilmember Donelson requested the PPLD Board reconsider the vote  
to close the Rockrimmon branch library at their December 2024 meeting  
and keep the branch open for a year to allow time to find a more suitable  
location which matches the criteria. Mr. Salt stated the conditions have not  
changed enough to warrant a revote.  
5.B.  
Information Regarding Natural Medicine  
Presenter:  
Richard Zane, MD, Executive Director of Emergency Services,  
UCHealth  
Professor and Chair, Department of Emergency Medicine, University of  
Colorado School of Medicine  
Christopher Hoyt, MD  
Medical Director, Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center  
Professor and associate vice-chair, Department of Emergency  
Medicine, University of Colorado School of Medicine  
Tasia Poinsatte, Colorado Director, Healing Advocacy Fund  
Henny Lasley, Executive Director, One Chance to Grow Up  
Richard Zane, MD, Executive Director of Emergency Services, UCHealth  
Professor and Chair, Department of Emergency Medicine, University of  
Colorado School of Medicine, introduced the presentation regarding  
Colorado voters passing the measure to decriminalize psychedelic  
mushrooms and create healing centers for psilocybin therapy.  
Christopher Hoyt, MD, Medical Director, Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug  
Center Professor and associate vice-chair, Department of Emergency  
Medicine, University of Colorado School of Medicine, presented an  
overview of psilocybin exposures, poison hotline, hallucinogenic  
mushrooms, annual exposures to psychedelic substances reported to  
United States (U.S.) poison centers, clinical effects, and medical outcome.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked what the concerns regarding healing  
centers are. Dr. Zane stated psilocybin is already in the community outside  
of healing centers and are unregulated, but they believe this substance has  
the potential to help people, but it is not approved by the U.S. Food and  
Drug Administration (FDA), and they do not know the long-term effects of it  
yet.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if there are any other drugs used for  
psychiatric treatment which have similar effects to psilocybin and if they are  
similarly abused. Dr. Zane stated Ketamine has been FDA approved for  
severe depression, with emerging evidence for Post Traumatic Stress  
Disorder (PTSD), but does have similar abuse potential.  
Tasia Poinsatte, Colorado Director, Healing Advocacy Fund Colorado’s  
psilocybin therapy program, The Healing Advocacy Fund, reasons behind  
the use of psychedelics, psilocybin research, and Colorado timeline. She  
went over the Colorado Natural Medicine Health Act, regulated access,  
state programs, required safety screen, medical consult/risk review,  
guardrails, Oregon statistics, and client testimonials.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if clients received three doses of  
psilocybin all at one time. Ms. Poinsatte stated they are generally spread  
out over a course of two months. Councilmember Donelson asked if the  
cost applies to all three doses. Ms. Poinsatte confirmed it does, and  
insurance does not currently cover the cost of this treatment.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how long patients stay at the facility after  
receiving a dose of psilocybin. Ms. Poinsatte stated it varies from three  
hours to five hours depending on the amount of the dose, but clients do not  
leave the site until all the effects of the psilocybin have worn off as tested by  
the participant and the facilitator.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how the participant is tested. Ms.  
Poinsatte stated it is a conversation with the facilitator and all participants  
are required to have transportation home, so they are not driving after the  
treatment.  
President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson asked if the facilitator is required to have  
a medical background. Ms. Poinsatte stated they are not, but there are two  
requirements for licensing for the facilitator, the clinical facilitator must be  
licensed to practice mental health or medicine and people with medical  
licensure participate in certain steps in the screening process.  
President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson asked how the facilitator will know if a  
participant is having an adverse reaction to psilocybin if they do not have a  
medical background. Ms. Poinsatte stated they will have a state required  
training to assist someone having a challenging experience.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if there was any data showing an increase  
of suicidal thoughts using psilocybin. Ms. Poinsatte stated similar to other  
mental health interventions, there is a risk, and the training provides a  
safety plan for that.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if there were any healing centers operated  
by Department of Regulatory Agencies (DORA) licensed regulated  
clinicians. Ms. Poinsatte stated a statewide survey shows that  
approximately eighty percent of the people interested have clinical  
licensure.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if the stated could only approved healing  
centers capable of providing collateral psychotherapy. Ms. Poinsatte stated  
there is a built-in requirement for involvement of medical and mental health  
professionals.  
Alex Lunetti, Board Certified Psychologist, spoke in support of the use of  
psilocybin as a new tool for the treatment of PTSD.  
Henny Lasley, Executive Director, One Chance to Grow Up, provided an  
overview of Once Chance to Grow Up, education campaigns driving strong  
policy, current data, Colorado decriminalization began in 2022, risks to  
kids, proximity, density, messaging, and youth. She identified what  
Colorado Springs can/cannot do, recommendation for consideration, and  
taking a precautionary approach.  
Councilmember Donelson asked when the first healing center will open.  
Ms. Poinsatte stated summer of 2025.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what distance from schools and childcare  
centers Ms. Lasley is recommending. Ms. Lasley stated they prefer there  
was no access to children, but she would support the recommended 5,280  
feet (1 mile) setback.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if psilocybin is being sold in the form of  
candy in Oregon. Ms. Poinsatte stated there is only one company which  
has a manufacturing license, and they have only produced psilocybin in the  
form of capsules or consumable mushrooms, but there has been  
consideration for other options for people at end of life who are  
experiencing nausea symptoms.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if the healing center regulation prohibits  
people from walking out with the mushroom product. Ms. Poinsatte  
confirmed that the treatment would occur within the facility and patients  
would not leave with any of the product. Ms. Lasley stated it is her  
understanding that licensed facilitators could take the product offsite to  
administer in homes.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if there are any tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)  
facilities regulated in the same manner as psilocybin. Ms. Lasley stated  
there is not because the models are so different.  
Councilmember Henjum stated she would like to City Council to postpone  
the vote at the November 26, 2024 City Council meeting in order to allow  
more time to consider the challenges. President Helms stated it is his  
understanding that an Ordinance needs to be passed before the end of the  
year. Ben Bolinger, Legislative Counsel, City Attorney’s Office, stated City  
Council has the opportunity to put regulation in place prior to the end of the  
year, at the beginning of the year, the state will begin accepting  
applications and they will be looking at whether or not the proposed  
location is properly zoned, and if the Ordinance is not zoned, the state will  
look at the underlying zones such as the use of a therapist’s office. Ms.  
Poinsatte stated most jurisdictions are taking a “wait-and-see" approach,  
but there are others moving forward with an Ordinance.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if this treatment is only for people who  
are twenty-one years or older. Dr. Zane clarified that psilocybin is not a  
medicine, it is a substance which is being researched as a potential  
medication and treatment because there has not been evidence yet, only  
anecdotes, that it has been beneficial.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if a medical person will be needed at the  
healing center at all times. Dr. Zane stated they do not know yet.  
Councilmember Risley stated because there is so much still unknown  
regarding the outcomes associated with psilocybin, he will be supporting  
the Ordinance regarding zoning requirements which can be changed if  
needed at a later time in order to have some guardrails in place.  
5.C.  
Update from Keep Colorado Springs Beautiful  
Presenter:  
Dee Cunningham, Executive Director, Keep Colorado Springs Beautiful  
Dee Cunningham, Executive Director, Keep Colorado Springs Beautiful  
(KCSB), provided an overview of KCSB, departments served, special  
events, trainings in Florida, 2023 statistics, statistics to date 2024. She  
identified the items that are taken for destruction, recycling and reuse,  
cleanup/restoration, community gardens, current partners, rebuild of  
planting beds/pergola, and volunteers.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if Mayor Yemi’s initiative to double the  
cleanups of the homeless camps will fall on KCSB to achieve. Ms.  
Cunningham stated they would like to assist, but it would ultimately fall on  
the Code Enforcement Department.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if they will be adding more staff. Ms.  
Cunningham stated they would if their contract was expanded.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked why the homeless population is claiming  
that the Homeless Outreach Team is stealing their belongings. Ms.  
Cunningham stated they will not touch anything unless it has been tagged  
for at least forty-eight hours, they give multiple chances for people remove  
their belongings, they do not steal anything from anyone and have a very  
good rapport with the population.  
Councilmember Leinweber stated the Homeless Union requested  
additional trash containers. Ms. Cunningham stated they have attempted to  
put out more trash cans, portalets, and roll-offs on the trail, but unfortunately  
trash cans become fire pits and roll-offs get scattered all over the area  
which have created more problems than solutions.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if KCSB work alongside WorkCOS. Ms.  
Cunningham stated they do not.  
Councilmember Talarico asked if KCSB has ever requested more than the  
$45,000 they contracted for twenty years ago. Ms. Cunningham stated their  
contract has moved between Departments many times and she has had  
discussions regarding expanding their services.  
Councilmember Talarico asked how they advertise for volunteers. Ms.  
Cunningham stated they do not advertise because they provide opportunity  
for court-ordered individuals except for offenses involving children and  
animals and provided an overview of their volunteers.  
Councilmember Talarico asked how many staff members are paid. Ms.  
Cunningham stated three.  
Councilmember Avila expressed appreciation for Ms. Cunningham, her  
team, and the work they do.  
6. Staff and Appointee Reports  
6.A.  
Agenda Planner Review  
Presenter:  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk  
There were no comments on this item.  
7. Items for Introduction  
7.A.  
A Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement between  
the City Of Colorado Springs and Project Phoenix  
Presenter:  
Jessie Kimber, Economic Development Officer  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager, presented the  
Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement (EDA)  
between the City and Project Phoenix. She provided an overview of Project  
Phoenix, proposed EDA, EDA requirements, ten-year expansion,  
economic impact, incentives, and fiscal impact.  
Dan Norton, General Manager, Customer Service, Colorado Springs  
Utilities (CSU) went over the utility considerations.  
Ms. Kimber identified the financial safeguards and staff recommendation.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what the amount of water is that CSU  
considers a concerning amount of water. Mr. Norton stated this facility will  
use 461 acre-feet of water per year, so they are not concerned about the  
water for that property.  
Councilmember Risley expressed appreciation to the Economic  
Development Department and the Colorado Springs Chamber of  
Commerce and the EDC for bringing these projects to the City.  
7.B.  
A Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement between  
the City Of Colorado Springs and Project All Natural  
Presenter:  
Jessie Kimber, Economic Development Officer  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager, presented the  
Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement (EDA)  
between the City and Project All Natural. She provided an overview of  
Project All Natural, proposed EDA, EDA requirements, four-year/ten-year  
expansion, economic impact, incentives, and fiscal impact. Ms. Kimber  
went over the financial safeguards and staff recommendation.  
There were no comments on this item.  
7.C.  
A Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement between  
the City Of Colorado Springs and Project Diamond  
Presenter:  
Jessie Kimber, Economic Development Officer  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager, presented the  
Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement (EDA)  
between the City and Project Diamond. She provided an overview of  
Project Diamond, proposed EDA, EDA requirements, four-year and  
ten-year expansion, economic impact, incentives, and fiscal impact. Ms.  
Kimber went over the financial safeguards and staff recommendation.  
There were no comments on this item.  
7.D.  
A Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement between  
the City Of Colorado Springs and Project Thunder  
Presenter:  
Jessie Kimber, Economic Development Officer  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager  
Shawna Lippert, Economic Development Manager, presented the  
Resolution approving an Economic Development Agreement (EDA)  
between the City and Project Thunder. She provided an overview of Project  
Thunder, proposed EDA, EDA requirements, four-year and ten-year  
expansion/retention/combined: economic impact, incentives, and fiscal  
impact. Ms. Kimber went over the financial safeguards and staff  
recommendation.  
There were no comments on this item.  
7.E.  
A Resolution Establishing 2025 Drainage Basin Fees, Bridge Fees,  
Detention Pond Facility and Land Fees  
Presenter:  
Erin Powers, P.E., Acting Stormwater Manager  
Erin Powers, Acting Stormwater Manager, Stormwater Enterprise,  
presented the Resolution establishing 2025 drainage basin fees, bridge  
fees, detention pond facility, and land fees. She stated the Drainage Board  
recommended a 7 ½ percent adjustment, how drainage fees are  
determined, fee increase analysis, City Code 7.4.702, stakeholder  
support, and fee recommendation.  
There were no comments on this on this item.  
7.F.  
A Resolution authorizing a land exchange between the City of Colorado  
Springs and James B. Klein (aka James Klein aka James Bruce Klein),  
Date Street, LLC, and The Shoppee LLC, and approving the payment of  
$107,500.00 for land and easements in connection with the Park Vista  
Drainage Improvement Project  
Presenter:  
Gayle Sturdivant, PE, PMP, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director  
Kellie Billingsley, Real Estate Services Manager  
Attachments: 1_Location Map  
Gayle Sturdivant, Acting Public Works Director/City Engineer, presented  
the Resolution authorizing a land exchange between the City and James B.  
Klein, Date Street, LLC, and The Shoppee LLC, and approving the  
payment of $107,500.00 for land and easements in connection with the  
Park Vista Drainage Improvement Project. She provided an overview of  
the project location, project background, project purpose, property  
exchange, project exchange need, and next steps.  
Councilmember Risley asked if the exchange of these platted parcels  
within the subdivision will require future land use review. Ms. Sturdivant  
stated she will investigate that because it may need a rezone. She stated if  
this land exchange is approved, they will be able to proceed with  
construction and this area may have some properties annexed into the  
City.  
Councilmember Donelson asked what the properties Mr. Klein will receive  
are currently zoned and if they are in the floodplain. Ms. Sturdivant stated  
they are zoned residential, and they are not in the floodplain.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if it is zoned for single-family homes.  
Brad Rodenberg, TRS, stated these parcels are zoned RM-8 which is  
multi-family.  
7.G.  
A Resolution Approving the Sixth Amended and Restated  
Intergovernmental Agreement among El Paso County, Colorado, the City  
of Colorado Springs, the City of Manitou Springs, the Town of Green  
Mountain Falls, the Town of Ramah, and the Town of Calhan Regarding  
the Pikes Peak Rural Transportation Authority  
Presenter:  
Gayle Sturdivant, PE, PMP, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director  
Ryan Phipps, PE, Capital Improvements Program Manager  
Gayle Sturdivant, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director, presented  
the Resolution approving the sixth amended and restated  
Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) among the City, El Paso County, City  
of Manitou Springs, Town of Green Mountain Falls, Town of Ramah, and  
Town of Calhan regarding the Pikes Peak Rural Transportation Authority  
(PPRTA). She provided an overview of what is covered in the IGA, why it is  
needed now, and next steps.  
President Helms asked if this item requires a two-thirds vote by the  
governing bodies of the PPRTA. Ms. Sturdivant confirmed it does by this  
grant program only.  
8. Items Under Study  
There were no Items Under Study.  
9. Councilmember Reports and Open Discussion  
Councilmember Risley stated he and Councilmember Henjum attended the  
Annexation Working Group meeting, he attended the Academic  
Engagement Enterprise Space Command Symposium at University of  
Colorado, Colorado Springs (UCCS), and the retirement ceremony for  
Cindy Aubrey, former Chief Executive Officer (CEO), United Way, and he  
congratulated the Switchbacks for their championship win which was  
broadcast nationally.  
Councilmember Donelson stated the Mayor met with the Federal Bureau of  
Investigation and denied that he had contact with the people indicted for a  
hate-crime hoax during the Mayoral Campaign and requested the Mayor  
come forward regarding whether or not he lied during the investigation.  
Ryan Trujillo, Deputy Chief of Staff, stated they are disappointed by the  
unfounded and unsourced allegations by the Daily Wire article, and they do  
not expect any further comments other than the Mayor’s public statement  
due to the continuing investigation of the defendants for which Mayor Yemi  
is not included.  
Councilmember Avila stated she did a walking tour of several small  
businesses with Chicana and read several letters she received from third  
grade students at Monroe Elementary.  
President Helms stated he attended the Colorado Springs Police and Fire  
Department training academy graduations and the United States Air Force  
Academy football game.  
10. Executive Session  
10A. Open  
There was no Open Executive Session.  
10B. Closed  
10B.A.  
In accord with City Charter art. III, § 3-60(d) and its incorporated  
Colorado Open Meetings Act, C.R.S. § 24-6-402(4)(b) and (f), the City  
Council, in Open Session, is to determine whether it will hold a Closed  
Executive Session. The issue to be discussed involves consultation with  
the City Attorney and Human Resources staff for the purpose of receiving  
legal advice and determining the process for advertising for,  
interviewing, and hiring a City Auditor.  
The President of Council shall poll the City Councilmembers, and, upon  
consent of two-thirds of the members present, may conduct a Closed  
Executive Session. In the event any City Councilmember is participating  
electronically or telephonically in the Closed Executive Session, each  
City Councilmember participating in the Closed Executive Session shall  
affirmatively state for the record that no other member of the public not  
authorized to participate in the Closed Executive Session is present or  
able to hear the matters discussed as part of the Closed Executive  
Session. If consent to the Closed Executive Session is not given, the  
item may be discussed in Open Session or withdrawn from  
consideration.  
Presenter:  
Wynetta Massey, City Attorney  
Ben Bolinger, Corporate Division Chief, Office of the City Attorney, stated  
that in accord with City Charter art. III, § 3-60(d) and its incorporated  
Colorado Open Meetings Act, C.R.S. § 24-6-402(4)(b) and (e), the City  
Council, in Open Session, is to determine whether it will hold a Closed  
Executive Session. The issue to be discussed involves consultation with  
the City Attorney and Human Resources staff for the purpose of receiving  
legal advice and determining the process for advertising for, interviewing,  
and hiring a City Auditor.  
President Helms polled City Council regarding the desire to proceed with  
an electronic Closed Executive Session. At least two-thirds of City Council  
agreed to proceed in a Closed Executive Session.  
11. Adjourn  
There being no further business to come before City Council, President  
Helms adjourned the meeting at 3:23 PM.  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk