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Tuesday, September 10, 2024  
1:00 PM  
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may amend the order of items.  
1. Call to Order and Roll Call  
President Helms called the meeting to order at 10:00 AM.  
9 -  
Present:  
Councilmember Yolanda Avila, President Pro Tem Lynette Crow-Iverson,  
Councilmember Dave Donelson, President Randy Helms, Councilmember Nancy  
Henjum, Councilmember David Leinweber, Councilmember Mike O'Malley,  
Councilmember Brian Risley, and Councilmember Michelle Talarico  
2. Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance  
The Invocation was made by Associate Care Pastor John Elsberry from the  
Vanguard Church.  
President Helms led the Pledge of Allegiance.  
3. Changes to Agenda/Postponements  
President Helms stated a citizen has requested items 4B.C. to be removed  
from the Consent Calendar.  
Consensus of Council agreed to this change on the agenda.  
4. Consent Calendar  
These items will be acted upon as a whole, unless a specific item is called for  
discussion by a Councilmember or a citizen wishing to address the City Council.  
(Any items called up for separate consideration shall be acted upon following the  
Mayor's Business.)  
4A. Second Presentation:  
4B. First Presentation:  
4B.A.  
City Council Regular Meeting Minutes August 27, 2024  
Presenter:  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk  
The Minutes were approved on the Consent Calendar.  
4B.B.  
An Ordinance Certifying Delinquent Stormwater Fees and Charges to  
the El Paso County Treasurer for Collection  
Presenter:  
Richard Mulledy, P.E., Public Works Director  
Erin Powers, P.E., Acting Stormwater Enterprise Manager  
This Ordinance was approved on first reading on the Consent Calendar.  
4B.D.  
Request to Establish an October 22, 2024 Public Hearing Date for the  
Consideration of Resolutions Setting Electric, Natural Gas, Water, and  
Wastewater Rates Within the Service Areas of Colorado Springs  
Utilities, and Certain Changes to Electric, Natural Gas, Water, and  
Wastewater Rate Schedules, and Utilities Rules and Regulations.  
Presenter:  
Travas Deal, Chief Executive Officer, Colorado Springs Utilities  
Tristan Gearhart, Chief Planning and Finance Officer, Colorado Springs  
Utilities  
This Item was approved on the Consent Calendar.  
Approval of the Consent Agenda  
Motion by Councilmember Henjum, seconded by Councilmember Talarico,  
that all matters on the Consent Calendar be passed, adopted, and approved  
by unanimous consent of the members present. The motion passed by a vote  
of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley,  
and Talarico  
5. Recognitions  
5.A.  
A Resolution honoring September 11, 2024 as a Day of Remembrance  
Presenter:  
Randy Helms, Council President and Councilmember District 2  
President Helms provided an account of his experience during the events  
of September 11, 2001 (9/11), read a Resolution honoring September 11,  
2024 as a Day of Remembrance, and honored former Colorado Springs  
resident and Mitchell High School graduate Kathryn Yancey LaBorie who  
tragically lost her life on United Flight 175.  
Don Addy spoke about the commemorative ceremony taking place at the  
Peace Officer Memorial in Memorial park and the response of citizens to  
the tragedy which took place on 9/11.  
Councilmember Donelson spoke about the sacrifices of military veterans  
and their families due to the consequences of 9/11.  
Councilmember Avila recognized the people who lost their lives in the  
World Trade Center.  
Motion by Councilmember Henjum, seconded by Councilmember Risley, that the  
Resolution honoring September 11, 2024 as a Day of Remembrance be adopted.  
The motion passed by a vote of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and  
Talarico  
5.B.  
A Resolution recognizing September 17 to September 23 as  
Constitution Week  
Presenter:  
Dave Donelson, Councilmember District 1  
Councilmember Donelson stated The Daughters of the American  
Revolution (DAR) brought forward the recognition of Constitution Week and  
presented the Resolution recognizing September 17 to September 23 as  
Constitution Week.  
Jessica Morgan, Region of the Cheyenne Mountain Chapter of the National  
Society DAR, provided an overview of DAR, identified the reasons behind  
Constitution Week, and thanked City Council for the recognition.  
Motion by Councilmember O'Malley, seconded by Councilmember Talarico, that  
the Resolution recognizing September 17 to September 23 as Constitution Week  
be adopted. The motion passed by a vote of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and  
Talarico  
5.C.  
A Resolution celebrating September 15th to October 15th as Hispanic  
Heritage Month  
Presenter:  
Yolanda Avila, Councilmember District 4  
Councilmember Avila thanked Alex Ryden, City Council Public  
Communication Specialist, who assists her in recording the reading of  
Resolutions and she read a Resolution celebrating September 15 to  
October 15 as Hispanic Heritage Month.  
Councilmember Avila introduced Jackie Jaramillo, Claudia Contreras, and  
Dora Gonzalez who provided a brief overview of their Latina heritage and  
have made great contributions to the community.  
Cory Arcarese identified the events for Fiestas Patrias and expressed  
appreciation for the recognition.  
Councilmember Avila spoke about her father’s experience being deported  
to Mexico during a round up and his military service.  
Councilmember Henjum and Councilmember Talarico expressed  
appreciation for Councilmember Avila and speakers sharing and  
educating about their Hispanic Heritage.  
Motion by Councilmember Henjum, seconded by Councilmember Avila, that the  
Resolution celebrating September 15th to October 15th as Hispanic Heritage  
Month be adopted. The motion passed by a vote of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and  
Talarico  
5.D.  
City Council Appointments to Boards, Commissions, and Committees  
Presenter:  
Randy Helms, Council President and Councilmember District 2  
President Helms presented the City Council Appointments to Boards,  
Commissions, and Committees.  
Councilmember Risley expressed appreciation for the nominees who wish  
to serve on Boards, Commissions, and Committees.  
Motion by Councilmember Talarico, seconded by Councilmember Risley, that the  
City Council Appointments to Boards, Commissions, and Committees be  
approved. The motion passed by a vote of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and  
Talarico  
6. Mayor's Business  
There was no Mayor’s Business.  
7. Items Called Off Consent Calendar  
4B.C.  
An Ordinance amending Article 6 (Trails, Open Space and Parks  
Program) of Chapter 4 (Parks, Recreation and Cultural Services) of the  
Code of the City of Colorado Springs as Amended, pertaining to the  
Trails, Open Space and Parks Program  
Presenter:  
Britt Haley, Director, Parks, Recreation and Cultural Services  
Department  
Lonna Thelen, Program Manager, Trails, Open Space and Parks  
(TOPS) Program  
Susan Davies, Trails and Open Space Coalition, stated seventy-five  
percent of the Trails, Open Space and Parks (TOPS) fund must be used for  
acquisition and they are starting to see some concerns because in the  
past, they had the flexibility to use the open space part of TOPS funding to  
not only buy open space but to also plan the open space in order to add  
trails, trail heads, and parking lots to be used by the public and that is no  
longer the case. She stated now they have plenty of money to buy property,  
but they do not have as much money to put it into the public use.  
Motion by Councilmember Henjum, seconded by Councilmember Risley, that the  
Ordinance amending Article 6 (Trails, Open Space and Parks Program) of  
Chapter 4 (Parks, Recreation and Cultural Services) of the Code of the City of  
Colorado Springs as Amended, pertaining to the Trails, Open Space and Parks  
Program be approved on first reading. The motion passed by a vote of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and  
Talarico  
8. Utilities Business  
There was no Utilities Business.  
9. Unfinished Business  
There was no Unfinished Business.  
10. New Business  
10.A.  
A Resolution Approving an Intergovernmental Agreement between the  
City of Colorado Springs, Colorado, El Paso County, Colorado and the  
Colorado Department of Transportation for a Comprehensive Roadway  
Access Control Plan for SH 83  
Presenter:  
Gayle Sturdivant, PE, PMP, Deputy Public Works Director/City Engineer  
Todd Frisbie, PE, PTOE, City Traffic Engineer, Public Works  
Gayle Sturdivant, Deputy Public Works Director/City Engineer, presented  
the Resolution approving an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) between  
the City, El Paso County, and the Colorado Department of Transportation  
(CDOT) for a Comprehensive Roadway Access Control Plan for the  
regulation of vehicle access to State Highway (SH) 83 between the  
southbound CO 21 ramp and County Line Road and stated there was a  
discrepancy of the text and the Exhibits regarding a full-movement access  
located northeast of the intersection CO 21 and SH 83 due to an  
agreement put in place in 2002 that it would be full-movement intersection  
in the future.  
Councilmember Risley stated this Resolution will codify access to some  
property along SH 83.  
Motion by Councilmember O'Malley, seconded by Councilmember Talarico, that  
the Resolution approving an Intergovernmental Agreement between the City of  
Colorado Springs, Colorado, El Paso County, Colorado and the Colorado  
Department of Transportation for a Comprehensive Roadway Access Control Plan  
for SH 83 be adopted. The motion passed by a vote of 9-0-0-0  
9 -  
Aye:  
Avila, Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Henjum, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and  
Talarico  
10.B.  
An Ordinance amending City Code Section 7.3.303.F  
(Marijuana-Related Services) of the Unified Development Code of the  
City of Colorado Springs. (Legislative)  
Presenter:  
Kevin Walker, Interim Director, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Kevin Walker, Interim Planning Director, Planning and Neighborhood  
Services, presented the Ordinance amending City Code Section 7.3.303.F  
(Marijuana-Related Services) of the Unified Development Code (UDC) and  
provided an overview of an addition to UDC requiring separation of uses  
from retail recreational marijuana sales, proposed language, map of  
proposed regulation depicting a one-mile radius from certain uses, UDC  
separation references, application review criteria, and optional motions.  
Councilmember Donelson asked why the Planning Commission  
recommended denial of this item. Mr. Walker stated the Planning  
Commission heard a lot of testimony about the fear of marijuana use  
especially among the youth in the community, but they did not see the logic  
between a one mile versus 1/2 mile versus another distance setback.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if it was because it violated another  
Section of City Code. Mr. Walker stated not to his knowledge.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if 1,000 feet is the current setback for  
medical marijuana facilities. Mr. Walker confirmed that it is.  
Councilmember Henjum asked how that distance was established.  
President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson stated it was recommended by the City  
Council Marijuana Workforce Group.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if there is evidence that a mile setback for a  
recreational marijuana establishment is required over 1,000 feet for a  
medical marijuana establishment. Mr. Walker stated none was presented  
to the Planning Commission.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if stakeholders have been involved in this  
proposed Ordinance. Mr. Walker stated not with the Planning and  
Neighborhood Services Department. President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson  
stated the opposition had the opportunity to speak at both Planning  
Commission meetings.  
Councilmember Henjum asked why this Ordinance is being proposed. Mr.  
Walker stated due the request of City Council.  
Councilmember Henjum stated Zoning Code should not be used to  
manage businesses and she will be voting against this proposed  
Ordinance.  
President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson stated she feels the Planning  
Commission went off track as to what was before them.  
Councilmember O’Malley stated the City is a national security community  
and anything that City Council can do to further strengthen that partnership,  
he supports.  
Councilmember Risley stated there seemed to be some confusion at the  
Planning Commission as to what the purview of land use is, and this is  
about protecting vulnerable populations, and he will be supporting the  
proposed Ordinance.  
Councilmember Avila stated this Ordinance is a way of avoiding the  
process and to make sure the medical marijuana establishments are not  
able to sell retail marijuana, marijuana is already in the City, and she will not  
be supporting this.  
Councilmember Henjum stated recreational marijuana is already legal and  
highly regulated in the state of Colorado, the initiative will be on the ballot,  
and highly regulated and there is an issue of freedom at stake here.  
Councilmember Talarico stated she has seen the effects of the toxic levels  
of THC firsthand in family members. Councilmember Avila stated citizens  
are still permitted to purchase retail marijuana even if it is outside the City  
limits and it is already here. Councilmember Talarico stated she feels she  
needs to do whatever she can to protect the children.  
Julie Dreifaldt, Director of Community Engagement, One Chance to Grow  
Up, identified marijuana commercialization and impacts on youth, fifty-five  
percent of new users are underage, 2022 Child Well-Being Index with  
marijuana licenses for the City and County of Denver, vulnerable family and  
child health comparison, education campaigns, profit from addiction, THC  
potency, marketing audience, and statistics regarding marijuana use.  
Danielle Hendrix, Resident Navigator, We Fortify, provided a brief overview  
of We Fortify, how young adults struggle with substance use, their harm  
reduction approach, and protecting vulnerable populations.  
Motion by Councilmember O'Malley, seconded by President Pro Tem  
Crow-Iverson, that the Ordinance amending City Code Section 7.3.303.F  
(Marijuana-Related Services) of the Unified Development Code of the City of  
Colorado Springs based upon the findings that the code text amendment  
complies with City Code Section 7.5.702 be approved on first reading. The motion  
passed by a vote of 7-2-0-0  
7 - Crow-Iverson, Donelson, Helms, Leinweber, O'Malley, Risley, and Talarico  
2 - Avila, and Henjum  
Aye:  
No:  
11. Public Hearing  
There was no Public Hearing.  
12. Added Item Agenda  
There were no items added to the Agenda.  
13. Executive Session  
There was no Executive Session.  
14. Citizen Discussion For Items Not On Today's Agenda  
President Helms stated he made a decision to permit fifty citizens on a first  
come basis to speak for two minutes each and asked them to identify how  
far from the Ford amphitheater they live and if they can hear the noise from  
it. Councilmember Donelson requested speakers also identify if they have  
a financial interest in the Ford Amphitheater.  
Councilmember Donelson made a motion to permit twenty-five citizens in  
opposition and twenty-five citizens in support of the Ford Amphitheater be  
allowed to speak. Ben Bolinger, Corporate Division Chief, Office of the  
City Attorney, stated he does not advise City Council to change a rule  
where they already defined the limits of their form already because if those  
who wish to speak are sorted into two groups based on what they are  
going say, they may not get the opportunity to speak. Councilmember  
Donelson withdrew his motion.  
Councilmember Donelson made a motion, Seconded by President Pro  
Tem Crow-Iverson to allow an additional thirty speakers of citizens who  
have been adversely affected by the Ford Amphitheater. Councilmember  
Leinweber stated two weeks ago City Council heard from thirty-seven  
citizens in opposition. President Helms stated he will allow additional  
speakers after the first fifty speakers regardless of if they are speaking for  
or against the amphitheater.Councilmember Donelson and President Pro  
Tem Crow-Iverson withdrew their motion.  
Citizen Dallas Gardner spoke about the power of love.  
Citizens Joe Aldaz, Erik Hilman, Greg Wolff, Liz Hansen ceded their time  
to Leasa Segura, Cindy Carter, Jack Hoskins, Lara Matisek, Jahara  
Matisek, Steve Marmel, Terry Josiah Sharpe, Jim Vacik, Tommy Foyer,  
Thor Hansen, Annette Verones, John Street, Joe McCreary, Jeff Dreyer,  
Dr. Vicki Wynn, Michael Shipley, David Hamershock, Brian Abraham,  
Brian Cooper, Ginger Winnop, Hillary Wolf Saba, Debbie Havens, Sandy  
Fenton, Scott Scarborough, Chris Jeub, Roger Patterson, James  
Anderson, Audra Cooper ceded their time to Margaret Edal, Trevor Nolan,  
Ron Rubins, Andrew Cain, Jerry Grant, Jacob Londgren, Jessica De La  
Luna, Sherman Terry, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Eilein Fink, Mike McGraw, Amy  
Gronhof, Karen Garaza, and Robert Mudd, spoke in favor of the Ford  
Amphitheater.  
Citizens Karen Lavee-Myers, Lyn Myers, Kristen Rising, Sheryl Hobbs,  
Janine Sledz, Shirley Dale, Kat Gayle, Mariana Baley, and Terrance  
Connolly, spoke in opposition of the Ford Amphitheater.  
J.W. Roth, Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Venu, Ford  
Amphitheater, stated his job is to do the best he can for everybody,  
including the neighbors, he has made a commitment to be the best  
neighbor he can, he cannot make the venue completely quiet, but he is  
working on sound configuration and assured that neighbors are not  
experiencing sound above the ambient levels of the neighborhood. He  
stated they are also studying how new physical mitigation can work to the  
north and northeast, and they are working on scheduling for next year  
especially regarding Sunday nights events.  
Ms. Sledz asked why the hardship noise variance permit was approved.  
Mr. Roth stated the hardship permit does not have anything to do with the  
decibels coming off the stage, the hardship permit was due to the levels of  
decibels which hit the apartment complex to the south of the amphitheater.  
Mr. Roth stated the two sound meters located at Voyager Parkway and  
Northgate Boulevard and ten sound monitoring systems located throughout  
the neighborhoods have not measured the concert noise levels above the  
neighborhood ambient noise levels.  
Mr. Roth stated he would be happy to put sound monitoring systems on  
neighborhood porches of those who would like them to measure both the  
ambient sound levels and concert noise levels.  
President Helms asked if the volume could be turned down. Mr. Roth stated  
the remainder of the shows are contractually preprogrammed, and they can  
address that for next year, but fifteen shows have already been contracted  
for 2025 and 2026.  
President Helms asked if Mr. Roth will be committed to providing  
additional noise mitigation. Mr. Roth stated he is going to do whatever he  
can do to make the experience for the ticket buyer, the concert goer, the  
artist, and the neighbors happy.  
President Helms asked if he will be meeting with the neighbors. Mr. Roth  
confirmed they will be holding an open house at the venue on October 5,  
2024 at 3:00 PM to show them what they have done configuration-wise to  
adjust/mitigate the sound and discuss the planned physical mitigation.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if this is a parallel experience as  
Fiddler’s Green. Mr. Roth confirmed it is and stated that as the area around  
the venue is built up, it will create a quasi-sound barrier.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if there will be restaurants incorporated  
into the sound wall. Mr. Roth confirmed there will be.  
Councilmember Donelson asked where the statistic that eighty-five percent  
of voters approve of the amphitheater came from. Mr. Roth stated WPA  
Intelligence and Research out of Washington D.C. put together a poll, by  
district.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if the hardship waiver permit was  
requested due to the apartment complex to the south. Mr. Roth confirmed it  
was.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if neighborhoods farther away from the  
two sound monitors are experiencing higher decibels. Mr. Roth stated there  
are areas showing higher decibels, but those areas are showing higher  
decibels of ambient noise even without a concert occurring.  
Councilmember Donelson requested Mr. Roth fund noise monitors which  
the City will install in the affected neighborhoods, collect data via a third  
neutral party, and if the noise levels are exceeding fifty decibels after 7:00  
PM when a concert is occurring, then Mr. Roth would need to make  
changes. Mr. Roth stated he will not because the ambient noise levels in  
those areas are already exceeding sixty decibels even without a concert  
occurring. Councilmember Donelson asked if Mr. Roth would do something  
if the ambient noise levels were measured below fifty decibels, but then  
spike to above fifty decibels when a concert is playing. Mr. Roth confirmed  
he would.  
Councilmember Henjum asked if Mr. Roth wants to make the negative  
experiences of the neighbors better. Mr. Roth confirmed he does.  
15. Adjourn  
There being no further business to come before City Council, President  
Helms adjourned the meeting at 6:20 PM.  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk