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Monday, September 23, 2024  
10:00 AM  
Council Chambers  
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1. Call to Order and Roll Call  
President Helms called the meeting to order at 10:01 AM.  
8 -  
Present  
Councilmember Yolanda Avila, President Pro Tem Lynette Crow-Iverson,  
Councilmember Dave Donelson, President Randy Helms, Councilmember Nancy  
Henjum, Councilmember David Leinweber, Councilmember Brian Risley, and  
Councilmember Michelle Talarico  
1 - Councilmember Mike O'Malley  
Excused  
Councilmember Talarico left the meeting at 12:00 PM.  
2. Changes to Agenda  
There were no Changes to Agenda.  
President Helms introduced Sara Brewen, Attorney, with the City Attorney’s  
Office, siting in the Legislative Counsel seat.  
3. Regular Meeting Comments  
President Helms stated Citizen’s Discussion will be held at the end of the  
September 24, 2024 City Council meeting. Councilmember Donelson and  
Councilmember Avila stated moving it to an unknown time suppresses  
citizens from speaking because they do not know what time it will be held.  
President Helms stated he does not feel it is fair to break for lunch in the  
middle of citizen’s discussion either.  
Councilmember Henjum stated she supports moving it to the end of  
tomorrow’s meeting.  
Councilmember Avila stated she does not support that the  
immigration/sanctuary city Resolution item being separate from the rest of  
the Resolutions. President Helms stated it is separate because it is not a  
recognition.  
Councilmember Risley stated City Council needs to be respectful of the  
decisions of President Helms and President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson and  
the work of Council staff.  
Councilmember Leinweber stated the citizens just need a more reliable  
time such as 1:00 PM and that they should receive their full three minutes to  
speak.  
4. Review of Previous Meeting Minutes  
4.A.  
City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes September 9, 2024  
Presenter:  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk  
The minutes of the September 9, 2024 Work Session were approved by  
Consensus of City Council.  
5. Executive Session  
5A. Open  
There was no Open Executive Session.  
5B. Closed  
There was no Closed Executive Session.  
6. Presentations for General Information  
6.A.  
Economic and Fiscal Impacts of Urban Renewal Area in Colorado  
Springs  
Presenter:  
Jariah Walker, Executive Director, Colorado Springs Urban Renewal  
Authority  
Tom Binnings, Senior Partner, Summit Economics, LLC  
Jariah Walker, Executive Director, Colorado Springs Urban Renewal  
Authority (URA) introduced Tom Binnings, Senior Partner, Summit  
Economics, LLC, who provided an overview of the economic and fiscal  
impacts of URA in Colorado Springs, research objective, key findings, total  
market versus assessed value, value of building permits post-URAs  
creation, new construction versus renovation. He identified the total Tax  
Incremental Financing (TIF) eligible taxes versus actual TIF, total URAs TIF  
eligible sales tax 2008-2022, property taxes, cumulative non-TIF tax receipt  
estimates, percent change of URA Census tracts from 2010-2020, and  
fifteen years past versus future forecasts.  
Councilmember Henjum asked what caused the change from  
seventy-seven percent of TIF eligible sales tax increment to property tax.  
Mr. Binnings stated areas with more retail potential have a higher  
contribution of sales taxes otherwise they become more property tax  
oriented.  
Councilmember Henjum asked why the City Auditorium is listed under the  
URA. Mr. Walker stated the entire block where the City Auditorium is  
located which includes the Hyatt is under URA.  
Councilmember Henjum asked why the URA is primarily on the western  
side of the City. Mr. Binnings stated urban renewal is a process which  
generally occurs after an area has a significant decline and the market is a  
central driver. Councilmember Henjum stated she would like to see the  
southeast and eastern side to start seeing some urban renewal.  
President Helms asked why the URA is moving more towards property  
taxes versus sales tax. Mr. Binnings stated starting in 2008 with north  
Nevada, they took a blighted area and converted it into retail center as well  
as other areas which have generated very significant sales taxes in the  
URA but moving forward, there are there are fewer of those opportunities  
and the future opportunities lie more in the realm of affordable or attainable  
housing and industrial reconfiguring.  
7. Staff and Appointee Reports  
7.A.  
Lithium-Ion Battery Presentation  
Presenter:  
Brett T. Lacey, Fire Marshal, Colorado Springs Fire Department  
Kris Cooper, Deputy Fire Marshal, Colorado Springs Fire Department  
Brett Lacey, Fire Marshal, Colorado Springs Fire Department (CSFD),  
introduced Kris Cooper, Deputy Fire Marshal, CSFD), who provided an  
overview of the risks associated with lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries, battery  
types, causes of Li-ion fires, statistics associated with Li-ion fires, CSFD  
concerns, local fires, and addressing the risk. He identified the  
micro-mobility fire hazards, electric bus hazards, electric vehicle fire  
hazards, topic response, Li-ion Task Force, response tactics, handling,  
and disposal. Deputy Fire Marshal Copper went over the acronym  
C.H.A.R.G.E. which stands for choose certified products, handle with care,  
always stay alert, recycle properly, get out quickly, and educate others  
President Helms asked if the fire incidents within the City were due to  
modifications made to electric bikes. Deputy Fire Marshal Cooper stated a  
majority were due to modifications, but a couple incidents were related to  
factory electric bikes.  
Councilmember Risley commented that these types of fires are also  
difficult to extinguish.  
Councilmember Henjum asked what the industry is doing to address this  
issue. Deputy Fire Marshal Cooper stated the industry is concerned and  
they are looking at new technologies for batteries.  
Councilmember Henjum asked how to identify which batteries are Li-ion.  
Deputy Fire Marshal Cooper stated most rechargeable batteries  
purchased within the past five years are Li-ion.  
Councilmember Leinweber stated he is concerned about the dangers of  
the Li-ion in power tools and asked if smoke detectors are required for  
garages. Deputy Fire Marshal Cooper stated they are not but there is a  
one-hour separation required for garages.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if micromobility charging is banned in  
multi-family housing units withing the City. Deputy Fire Marshal Cooper  
stated it is not, but they do ban commercial charging of micro-mobility, and  
they recommend it be banned in multi-family housing units. Councilmember  
Donelson stated he would support that coming before City Council as a  
regulation.  
Councilmember Talarico stated retailers selling these batteries should  
have the dangers identified with the sale. Deputy Fire Marshal Cooper  
stated they are continuing to educate the public about the concerns with  
these types of batteries.  
7.B.  
Agenda Planner Review  
Presenter:  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk  
Councilmember Henjum asked how City Council can be assured that the  
various district budget items have been fully vetted before City Council  
votes on them. President Helms stated there is a process which is followed  
in which staff briefs City Council on the information. Charae McDaniel,  
Chief Financial Officer, stated the items will be presented at a Work  
Session which will indicate any changes or outside of a normal Service  
Plan.  
8. Items for Introduction  
8.A.  
A resolution accepting and endorsing the recommendations from the  
Lodgers and Automobile Rental Tax (LART) Citizen Advisory Committee  
for expenditures from the LART special fund for inclusion in the 2025  
budget  
Presenter:  
Charae McDaniel, Chief Financial Officer  
Sally Hybl, Chair, LART Citizens’ Advisory Committee  
Charae McDaniel, Chief Financial Officer, presented the Resolution  
accepting and endorsing recommended expenditures from the Lodgers  
and Automobile Rental Tax (LART) special fund for inclusion in the 2025  
budget. She stated the total amount available for appropriation for 2025 is  
$10,687,000.  
President Helms stated this item was presented to the Budget Committee  
and any recommendations have been addressed.  
Councilmember Donelson asked which amounts were revised. Ms.  
McDaniel stated the total stayed the same but the US Senior Open was  
increased by $7,500, the Olympic and Paralympic Hall of Fame Festival  
increased by $50,000, the fallen Firefighters Fighters Memorial had an  
increase of $7,500, the Pikes Peak Pride Festival and parade was  
reduced by $15,000 to provide funding for the Festival portion and then  
there was $50,000 reduction from the reserves which the committee put  
aside for any potential future events.  
Councilmember Donelson stated he does not support funding for the Pikes  
Peak Pride Festival which is an LBGTQ event which supports  
transgenders because and he cannot support taxpayer dollars going to  
promote and support a celebration of children being put on hormonal  
therapy, surgeries to remove teenage girl’s breasts, and men and girls  
shared locker rooms when there are zero dollars going toward the  
Colorado Springs Western Street Breakfast, the Pikes Peak or Bust  
Rodeo, and the Festival of Lights parade.  
President Helms stated because the other parades are not being funded,  
they agreed that the Pikes Peak Pride parade would not be funded either,  
but festival is a different matter. Councilmember Donelson stated these are  
only recommendations by the LART Advisory Committee and that it is  
Council’s obligation to refer items to the Mayor’s Office for funding.  
Councilmember Talarico stated she believes it is very important for Council  
to support the work of the committee and the two City Council liaisons who  
also supported these recommendations.  
President Helms stated he believes the LART Community considers the  
broad perspectives of the community.  
8.B.  
Review of Draft Proposed Gas Cost Adjustment Rates effective October  
1, 2024.  
Presenter:  
Travas Deal, Chief Executive Officer, Colorado Springs Utilities  
Tristan Gearhart, Chief Planning and Finance Officer, Colorado Springs  
Utilities  
Scott Shirola, Pricing and Rates Manager, Colorado Springs Utilities  
(CSU) presented the Resolutions setting the Gas Cost Adjustment (GCA),  
and Electric Cost Adjustment (ECA) rates effective October 1, 2024 and  
provided an overview of the types of fuel related cost, natural gas prices as  
of September 1, 2024, ECA and GCA projections for September 2024,  
sample residential bill, and how customers can receive assistance.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked how the storage of natural gas is  
utilized. Mr. Shirola stated they do utilize the storage of natural gas on an  
economic basis in the winter to optimize supplies.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked how much natural gas is in storage at  
any given time. Tristan Gearhart, Chief Planning and Finance Officer, CSU,  
stated they have fifteen to twenty percent in storage.  
Councilmember Henjum asked when the last increase was. Mr. Shirola  
stated October 2022.  
Councilmember Donelson commented that CSU does not make a profit on  
these GCA and ECA, it simply balances out the cost and they are  
approximately ten percent less than other Front Range utilities.  
8.C.  
A Resolution Setting the Electric Cost Adjustment Rate Effective  
October 1, 2024  
Presenter:  
Travas Deal, Chief Executive Officer, Colorado Springs Utilities  
Tristan Gearhart, Chief Planning and Finance Officer, Colorado Springs  
Utilities  
Please see comments in Agenda item 8.B.  
8.D.  
An ordinance including certain property into the boundaries of the Gold  
Hill North Business Improvement District  
(Legislative)  
Presenter:  
Kyle Fenner, Senior Planner, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Kevin Walker, Interim Director, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Attachments: Cover Letter  
Kyle Fenner, Senior Planner, Planning and Neighborhood Services,  
presented the Ordinances and Resolution including/excluding certain  
property into the boundaries of the Gold Hill North Business Improvement  
District (BID) and approving the issuance of tax supported and special  
revenue bonds by the Gold Hill North BID. She provided an overview of the  
background, summary of inclusions and exclusions, existing boundaries,  
proposed exclusions, summary of debt request, and staff recommendation.  
Blair Dickhoner, White Bear Ankele Tanaka and Waldron, representing the  
applicant, identified the history of the site, governing law/policies, boundary  
adjustments, costs of public improvements, BID financial plan, and debt  
issuance.  
Councilmember Donelson requested additional information on the  
inclusion properties. John Olson, Urban Landscapes LLC, representing the  
applicant, stated they have always been a part of this, but were in the  
metropolitan district, and is part of the parkland dedication which will be  
maintained by the BID.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if any bonds have been issued. Ms.  
Fenner stated there has not been, this is the first issuance.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if it is unusual to issue bonds ten percent  
higher than the property value. Ms. Fenner stated there is a policy which  
addresses this and will require a super-majority vote by City Council.  
8.E.  
An ordinance excluding certain property from the boundaries of the Gold  
Hill North Business Improvement District  
(Legislative)  
Presenter:  
Kyle Fenner, Senior Planner, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Department  
Kevin Walker, Interim Director, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Attachments: Cover Letter  
Please see comments in Agenda item 8.D.  
8.F.  
A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Colorado Springs,  
Colorado approving the issuance of tax supported and special revenue  
bonds by the Gold Hill North Business Improvement District  
(Legislative)  
Presenter:  
Kyle Fenner, Senior Planner, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Kevin Walker, Interim Director, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Please see comments in Agenda item 8.D.  
8.G.  
A resolution including certain property into the boundaries of the  
Waterview North Metropolitan District Nos. 1 & 2  
(Legislative)  
Presenter:  
Kyle Fenner, Senior Planner, Planning and Neighborhood Services  
Department  
Kyle Fenner, Senior Planner, Planning and Neighborhood Services,  
presented the Resolution including certain property into the boundaries of  
the Waterview North Metropolitan District Nos. 1 and 2. She provided an  
overview of the background of the districts, location, summary of inclusions,  
existing boundaries, proposed inclusions, Colorado Revised Statutes Title  
32, outside review, and staff recommendation.  
Councilmember Donelson requested a presentation from the applicant.  
Ms. Fenner stated they have requested the applicant be present at the  
October 8, 2024 City Council meeting and they would like to keep this item  
on track due to the upcoming November elections.  
8.H.  
A Resolution Approving the Third Amended and Restated  
Intergovernmental Agreement for the Pikes Peak Rural Transportation  
Authority Funded Capital Projects, Maintenance Programs and  
City-Sponsored Transit Activities  
Presenter:  
Gayle Sturdivant, PE, PMP, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director  
Ryan Phipps, PE, Engineering Program Manager, Capital Projects  
Gayle Sturdivant, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director, presented  
the Resolution approving the Third Amended and Restated  
Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) for the Pikes Peak Rural  
Transportation Authority funded capital projects, maintenance programs,  
and City-sponsored transit activities. She provided an overview of what is  
covered in the IGA, why it is needed now, and next steps.  
Councilmember Henjum requested additional information from the  
Councilmembers who serve on the PPRTA Board. President Helms stated  
it is basically a cleanup. Ms. Sturdivant stated it also identifies by name the  
PPRTA 3 projects which were on the ballot. Councilmember Risley stated  
there were no concerns identified by the Board.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if the IGA was approved unanimously by  
the PPRTA Board. Ms. Sturdivant confirmed it was.  
8.I.  
A Resolution Authorizing the Use of Possession and Use and/or Eminent  
Domain to Acquire Property Needed for the Park Vista Drainage  
Channel Improvements Project  
Presenter:  
Adam Copper, Senior Engineer, Stormwater Enterprise  
Gayle Sturdivant, PE, PMP, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director  
Kellie Billingsley, Real Estate Services Manager  
Gayle Sturdivant, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director, presented  
the Resolution authorizing the Use of Possession and Use and/or Eminent  
Domain to acquire property needed for the Park Vista Drainage Channel  
Improvements Project. She provided an overview of the project location,  
project background, project purpose, property acquisitions, negotiation  
history, project timeline, and next steps.  
Councilmember Donelson asked how far off was the City’s offer to what the  
property owner is asking. Ms. Sturdivant stated they are very close now, but  
started off at a five times difference and the appraised value was $18,000.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if this property had unique characteristics  
which would create a special value. Ms. Sturdivant stated not that they are  
aware of, and this property is located in a floodplain which the property  
owner’s appraisal did not identify.  
8.J.  
A Resolution Authorizing the Use of Possession and Use and/or Eminent  
Domain to Acquire Certain Easements Needed for the I-25  
Ramps/Nevada Tejon Corridor Improvements Project  
Presenter:  
Gayle Sturdivant, PE, PMP, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director  
Kellie Billingsley, Real Estate Services Manager  
Gayle Sturdivant, City Engineer/Deputy Public Works Director, presented  
the Resolution authorizing the Use of Possession and Use and/or Eminent  
Domain to acquire property needed for the I-25 Ramps/Nevada Tejon  
Corridor Improvements Project. She provided an overview of the property  
location map, project site, Parcel 04 - total area value/negotiation history,  
Parcel 10 - total area value/negotiation history, project timeline, and  
procedure manual information.  
President Helms asked if the property is owned by a corporation on the  
east side and a private owner on the west side. Ms. Sturdivant confirmed  
they are.  
Councilmember Leinweber asked if the owners will lose the nonconforming  
grandfathered sign. Ms. Sturdivant stated they will not, the owner also  
requested protections against damage to the sign, and a guarantee for the  
future of the sign.  
Councilmember Donelson requested a picture of the sign be presented at  
the October 8, 2024 City Council meeting. Ms. Sturdivant stated she will  
provide that.  
Councilmember Donelson asked if there was a higher probability of the  
sign being hit during construction. Ms. Sturdivant stated there is not a  
higher potential for it being damaged during the project.  
8.K.  
An Ordinance amending Section 2(A) of Ordinance No. 23-64, And  
Amending Section 3 Of Ordinance No. 14-20 (An Ordinance Confirming  
The Mayor's Appointment Of The City Attorney And Setting The Salary  
Of The City Attorney), And Prescribing The Salary Of The City Attorney.  
Presenter:  
Myra Romero, Chief Human Resources and Risk Officer  
Myra Romero, Chief Human Resources and Risk Officer, presented the  
Ordinance approving the salary of the City Attorney and stated they are  
recommending moving Wynetta Massey’s annual salary to the market  
average of $244,179.00 effective June 1, 2024.  
There were no comments on this item.  
There were no Items Under Study.  
9. Items Under Study  
10. Councilmember Reports and Open Discussion  
Councilmember Risley stated he and several other Councilmembers  
attended the DC Fly-In in Washington D.C.  
Emily Evans, City Council Administrator, provided an overview of the  
Lodgers and Automobile Rental Tax (LART) process review meeting with  
facilitator Cathy Ritter, Chief Executive Officer, Better Destinations, and the  
LART Solutions Team being held at 3:00 PM today.  
Councilmember Henjum stated she attended the DC Fly-In, Downtown  
Partnership Breakfast, Food to Power ten-year anniversary celebration,  
and the community conversation regarding the Citadel Mall.  
President Pro Tem Crow-Iverson stated she was also at the DC Fly-in.  
Councilmember Avila stated that she attended the ribbon-cutting ceremony  
for the Solid Rock Village, Fiestas Patrias event, Centro de la Familia  
open house, Food to Power Harvest Festival, and the governor’s mansion  
in honor of Hispanic Heritage Month.  
Councilmember Donelson read four recommendations to be added to the  
existing draft Resolution declaring Colorado Springs a non-sanctuary City  
and stated he will request votes on each one during the Regular Council  
meeting the next day. The four recommendations are:  
1. City Council calls for the City of Colorado Springs to join the current  
lawsuit by El Paso and other Colorado Counties against the State of  
Colorado for creating a “Sanctuary State”.  
2. City Council calls for the City of Colorado Springs to explore with Castle  
Rock, Aurora and other Front Range cities the possibility of joining their  
potential lawsuit against Denver regarding its “Sanctuary City” status and  
the resulting impacts on surrounding communities.  
3. Call on the Governor of Colorado and our legislature to reverse  
legislation which has turned Colorado into a “Sanctuary State” - including  
HB 19-1124 and HB 23-1100.  
4. Call for remigration/deportation of all of the approximately 20 million  
illegal aliens who have recently entered our country. He stated he would  
also like the Whereas paragraphs 2 and 3 be completely removed.  
Councilmember Leinweber stated he would like the advice of the City  
Attorney’s Office regarding Councilmember Donelson’s requests prior to  
City Council voting on the Resolution at the September 24, 2024 City  
Council meeting. Trevor Gloss, Attorney, City Attorney’s Office, stated they  
would need to discuss the recommendations with the City Attorney.  
President Helms stated he would like to move forward with the Resolution  
as presented and address Councilmember’s Donelson’s  
recommendations at a later time. Councilmember Risley stated he is not  
comfortable with these proposed changes being presented with less than  
twenty-four hours’ notice and asked that Council be polled regarding  
whether or not they want to move forward with Councilmember Donelson’s  
recommendations.  
President Helms polled Council regarding their desire to proceed with  
Councilmember Donelson’s recommendations. Consensus of Council  
agreed to only move forward with recommendation 3. Call on the Governor  
of Colorado and our legislature to reverse legislation which has turned  
Colorado into a “Sanctuary State” - including HB 19-1124 and HB  
23-1100. Councilmember Donelson stated it may be best to wait a couple  
of weeks in order to allow the City Attorney to review it.  
President Helms stated he attended the 9/11/01 Memorial Service,  
Saluting Branches at Evergreen Cemetery, and the International Fallen Fire  
Fighters Memorial Service. He stated he also spoke to the third-grade  
classes at the Banning Lewis Elementary School regarding local  
government.  
11. Adjourn  
There being no further business to come before City Council, President  
Helms adjourned the meeting at 2:03 PM.  
Sarah B. Johnson, City Clerk